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And Mike has given up his "right" to be cherished – he has to manage his own feelings unless he first gets my agreement to listen and respond to his feelings; however, because I respect him and follow his lead, HE feels cherished! But if he ever has negative feelings he wishes to share, he lets me know, and we make an appointment (usually, of course, it’s when he brings it up, because I AM receptive and available to him) and we discuss them.

So it’s not that I’ve become a mute, order-following doll and he never gets his feelings attended to – it’s that we have chosen our "sides" and unless we made special arrangements, we stay on them!

LouiseC wrote: The idea that it is natural for a woman to be totally irresponsible and leave everything to the man is utter nonsense, this has never been true.

Huh?? Did EITHER of us say that?!

LouiseC wrote: I am a pretty idle woman myself, but I never get to be as idle as I would like to be, because my husband can't afford to keep servants. He certainly doesn't expect me to wait on him, he never has,

But SOOOOO many men DO! So many men want their wives to be their mommy, their servant! They view the woman as their own house-servant – the one who cooks and cleans and "serves" the man – as if he were the aristocrat and she the peasant. In too many male-led relationships, the woman gives up her independence. Instead of ending up the cherished beloved prize of the man, she ends up doing his drudge work while he reads the paper – and often her OWN paid work too! How is that "version" of manhood or womanhood a good thing?!

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